Exeter Town Council Resolution to Kill Local Concealed Carry Permitting

State Rep. Larry Valencia will be joining with the Exeter Town Council to read in and put into the record a resolution asking the state to eliminate the town level granting of concealed carry permits. A meeting will be held on March 4, (tomorrow, sorry for the short notice) at 7:00pm at the Exeter Town Hall. The resolution calls for adjusting parts of 11-47-2 for the town of Exeter. Please do your best to show up at the Exeter Town Hall tomorrow and show your adamant disapproval of this resolution. Those of you living in Exeter, these are your town council members and your state representative.

President:

Arlene B. Hicks, Democrat, abhicks@cox.net

Vice President:

William P. Monahan, Democrat, billmonahan84@yahoo.com

 

Members:

Raymond A. Morrissey, JR.Independent, ray.etc10@yahoo.com

Robert Johnson, Democrat, rjohnson84@msn.com

Calvin A. Ellis, Democrat, ellis515@cox.net

State Rep. Larry Valencia, Democrat, rep-Valencia@rilin.state.ri.us

Update: This is an updated version of this post to reflect changes brought up about inaccuracies in the original. I want to thank Rep. Larry Valencia for bringing these to my attention. I double checked with my original source and was told my information was correct. Needless to say I’m sorry for passing on info that turned out to be inaccurate. That’s not my goal here at RI Gun Blog. As always I urge a civil dialogue on the issues surrounding our second amendment rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.eikeland David Eikeland

    Do you know what part of 11-47-11 he wants to repeal? Last year I believe he wanted to change 11-47-2 by striking the Clerk as the licensing authority and have applicants go to the AG instead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.valencia.58 Larry Valencia

    If you read the text of my bill from last year (H8120 Sub A) you will see that it only applied to Exeter. Exeter is the only remaining RI town or city that doesn’t have a police chief. So the blog comment “That would affect all towns, not just Exeter” just isn’t true.

    • http://www.facebook.com/roger.swann.10 Roger Swann

      OH, ok, that clears it up. In your view, It is ok to violate the rights of Exeter citizens, as long as it doesn’t affect any other town.

      • http://www.facebook.com/larry.valencia.58 Larry Valencia

        Roger, if I submit the bill this year I’ll be submitting it at the request of the Exeter Town Council. We’re all up for re-election, and if the residents of Exeter think we’re doing them a disservice, they have a recourse. I’m sorry that you feel that Exeter residents rights are under attack. All Exeter residents are free to apply for a permit with the AG right now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/roger.swann.10 Roger Swann

          Representative Valencia,
          If you desire to educate yourself on the “Firearms Act”, RIFOL’s offer to meet with you and have a legal chat is an open offer. We would like to meet with you and your attorney of choice and review the current case law outlining a citizens rights.
          I agree the Exeter citizens do have recourse, and they will not have to wait for the election!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.valencia.58 Larry Valencia

    Additonally, I have no idea what the resolution that Exeter is proposing will say specifically (as I haven’t had a hand in drafting it) but last year’s bill, H8120 Sub A, referenced RI Gen Laws 11-47-2 (definitions) and NOT 11-47-11. I have no interest in changing the conceal carry permit itself – just tweak the licensing definition as it applies to the Town of Exeter.

    • RIGunBlog

      Thanks for clearing that up Larry. I’ll edit the post to reflect.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.eikeland David Eikeland

      Not only residents of Exeter are affected by this since you can also apply to Exeter if you have a permit from another state according to 11-47-11.

    • http://www.facebook.com/roger.swann.10 Roger Swann

      I cannot say what Representative Valencia intended to do with H8120 Sub A, as he failed to respond to a letter from the Rhode Island Firearm Owners’ League
      (www.rifol.org) when we asked this very question. This letter was also sent to the Exeter Town council and they too failed to respond. I will let the reader interpret what the meaning of public officials failing to respond to the citizens means. I have introduced this letter into communications at the March 4, 2013 Exeter Town council agenda, and will be providing copies to all interested parties at the council meeting.

      What I can tell you is what H8120 Sub A would mean for the residents of Exeter, anyone 21 or over who is a resident of the United States and possess a permit from another jurisdiction, and the law abiding citizens of RI.

      First, H8120 Sub A ( http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText12/HouseText12/H8120A.pdf )
      would delete the issuing authority for the town of Exeter leaving the residents without a means to apply for a permit under RIGL 11-47-11. The RI Supreme court has stated (Mosby v Devine) this statute (RIGL11-47-11) is the constitutional guarantee that vindicates the rights set forth in art. 1, sec. 22, of the Rhode
      Island Constitution. So yes, taking away the right to apply in ones town violates the RI Constitution. This stands equally true for anyone 21 or over who is a resident of the United States and possess a permit from another jurisdiction because the same court also stated, the plaintiff (not a RI resident) in this case was entitled to a carrying permit from the licensing authority of any city or town. Notice the court did not exempt the town of Exeter or any town without a police force or chief of police from this requirement.

      So it is true the proposed bill doesn’t directly change the actual pistol permit itself as stated by Representative Valencia, It simply does away with the
      issuing authority one would apply to in the town of Exeter.. So no issuing authority, no permit. I’ll let the readers be the judge of the validity of the
      Representative’s statement. I actually believe him when he said, “I have no interest in changing the conceal carry permit itself – …….”. He doesn’t have
      any interest in changing it, his desire is to eliminate the permit and the last attempt was through deleting the issuing authority.

      Feel free to contact me for more information on this topic including the necessary documentation to back up every statement I have made, I will provide
      proof, not chatter.

      Roger Swann
      roger.swann@rifol.org
      http://www.rifol.org

      • http://www.facebook.com/larry.valencia.58 Larry Valencia

        Funny, Roger,…I could have sworn you were in the same room with me last year, testifying against H8120. Maybe you walked out while I was testifying? :)